Tuesday, June 8, 2010
Slim Thug...Relationship Expert
Yesterday everyone on twitter was up in arms about some comments Slim Thug had made in regards to black women.
I saw the repeated mention of his name and chose simply to disregard, Slim Thug couldn't possibly give me any information on how I needed to conduct myself as a female much less a black woman. But after BBM'ing with my BBM baby daddy Meek I decided to check it out seeing as though he said "he didn't say anything that you wouldn't have said"...so Slim Thug had valid points? Hmm....this I needed to see!
In case you missed it....
"The way Black people think in general is messed up. Both men and women need to change their way of thinking. It’s hard to trust a Black woman [sometimes] because a lot of Black women’s mind frame is that the man gotta do everything for her⎯ he gotta pay for this, he gotta pay for that, and if it ain’t about money then a lot of them ain’t fucking with him. If that’s what you’re here for then I don’t want to be with you.
Most single Black women feel like they don’t want to settle for less. Their standards are too high right now. They have to understand that successful Black men are kind of extinct. We’re important. It’s hard to find us so Black women have to bow down and let it be known that they gotta start working hard; they gotta start cooking and being down for they man more. They can’t just be running around with their head up in the air and passing all of us.
I have a brother that dates a White woman and he always be fucking with me about it saying, “Y’all gotta go through all that shit [but] my White woman is fine. She don’t give me no problems, she do whatever I say and y’all gotta do all that arguing and fighting and worry about all this other shit.”
My girl is Black and White. I guess the half White in her is where she still cooks and do all the shit that I say, so we make it. She just takes care of me and I like that. She don’t be begging and I don’t gotta buy her all this crazy ass shit. And she’s a smart girl too. She graduated from Columbia [University] and I like that about her so it’s cool. I’ve dated girls that will buy a $3,000 bag and don’t know how to pay it off on their credit cards. They walk around in these Louis Vuittons and red bottoms but they’re riding around in raggedy cars, so it’s just getting your priorities right.
White women treat they man like a king and Black women feel like they ain’t gotta do that shit. Black women need to stand by their man more. Don’t always put the pressure of if I’m fucking with you, you gotta buy me this and that. Black men are the ones that motherfuckers need [but] I think a lot of them need to step it up too. A Black man who gets a little bread will go make it rain in the club and be broke the next day or instead of him going to invest in a business he gonna go buy new jewelry or a new car and still live in the hood. Black peoples’ mentality is real fucked up in general [and] it’s affecting everything.
Black women need to be more genuine and be more 50/50 [but] It should be a fair exchange in a relationship period or eventually somebody is gonna feel like they’re getting fucked over whether it’s the woman or the man. I think that will help Black relationships out a lot."
Now...if you are a long time reader of my blog or have had a conversation with me outside of the comment box you'll know I am ALL FOR traditional gender roles, with a new jack swing. Women should cook and clean and generally take care of the house. Men should lead the household and take care of his family. Should a woman be a stay at home mom? Not if she doesn't want to...does a man have to be the breadwinner? No not at all. But the VALUES should be traditional (in my opinion)...
Think about it. Look at marriage/divorce rates from the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's...as we moved from a more traditional mindset as far as relationships go...the more relationships that have failed. Obviously the people before us had the right idea...right?
When I say I believe in traditonal gender roles alot of women frown their face, I do think a man and woman should run the house together, but a man is the spokesperson. That's my opinion, I thnk it works, until I see a booming number of households that differ from that and still flourish...maybe I'll change my view.
So all in all...I see absolutely nothing wrong with what Slim Thug said, could he have been a bit more eloquent (see comparison to white and black women)? Yes of course, but that dude is not a writer, he's not a columnist, he's a rapper...a non working rapper but a rapper nonetheless. And if you were offended by what he said...maybe you should re-evaluate yourself, all of his points were completely valid. He basically repeated an age old adage: TREAT PEOPLE HOW YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.
I wish that black women would cut this sense of self entitlement bullshit out, it's unrealistic and unattractive. You deserve what you put out. You're living on section 8, collecting WIC checks, and have 5 kids by 3 different men and no real job to speak of you need not ask for a college educated man making 6 figures with no kids who drives a Benz. Be realistic boo! Why the fuck would he want you? What are YOU bringing to the table? You don't deserve anything simply because you are a black woman. Get over it and yourself.
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5 comments:
thank you so much. thank you for "getting" it. seriously.
YES YES!!!! I'm glad I wasn't the only one who got what he was saying..I'm sending this to my angry black woman bff who felling all sorts of way about what Slim said!
I agree 100%! It's weird b/c I run into guys who try to convince me that it's 2010 when I proclaim to be a female chauvinist and let them know I expect to be treated a certain. I am college educated with a good job and grad-school bound…but that does not stop me from cooking when I get home and making sure the man in my life eats and is in a clean house. In return, I never open a door, carry anything heavy, kill any bugs, or take out garbage (granted that he’s around). I don’t see how some women are offended by what Slim said. He was just speaking the truth as he sees it, a tad more general for my liking, but overall, I can’t say I disagree with him.
I Agree With What Slim Thug Said....Some Of It Did Make Sense But The Way He Put It Was No Bueno...Also I'm Sick Of All Black Women Being Clumped Into One Group Which Is: Loud, Selfish, And Naggers. Not Every Black Woman Is Closed Minded And Isn't Up For Hearing/Discussing Calmly What Issues She Has With Her Man #Justsayin
i agree with S Jones. i think the way he put it, and the way he tried to make it seem that race played a factor was wrong. i don't hate black women. i'm not bitter, i just want to find a woman who embodies everything i want. and what i want is a woman who is everything. just like i'm trying to be everything to her. yes, i went to college. ok. you did too. yes, i work. if you want to work ok..but it does not cancel out the fact i want you to be an active mother, because i want to be an active father. it does not cancel out that i do yard work, so i want you to do house work. it does not cancel out that i LOVE homecooked meals. and that's something i want you to do as my woman.
i think if more black women saw the complaint more as a request they wouldn't trip as much. i believe it's seen as an insult to them. like, "i went to college..and you want me to cook?". and it's like..yes. i want you to cook not to demean you, but because i'm hungry. and fast food is killing me & potentially our kids. and if it has to be me that cook, fine. because it will get done. but i'm not gonna do everything myself, because what's the point of having you in my life if you aren't going to help me or do anything for me?
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